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Chalkboards when creating worlds using commands

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  • Debbie Alexander
    Moderator Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    /fill <x y z> <x y z> standing_sign 

    works.

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  • Aleece Landis
    Bug Zapper Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    A standing sign is not a chalkboard poster or slate.

    Sure I can setblock a sign but that is not really helpful in world creation since I would have to go through and break the sign and and a new one to add the text.  I suppose I could setblock the signs as "placeholders" to show me where I need to go through and add boards and paste in the text.

    I did find out today from Stephen Elford that all the chalkboards are kinda buggy too for instance if you were to clone them, they don't really show up in the cloned location.

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  • Debbie Alexander
    Moderator Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    Perhaps it would be more helpful to you if you took a little more time in your request posts to explain more fully what you are doing. For example, commands is not very specific, but I have to assume you are using chat commands when you say /summon. But as you may have noticed, the fields that correspond to the summon command refer to entities (like drowned or chicken or dolphin) and not boards or signs. And the fill command has no access to posters. the tilename:block field does not have access to it. This applies equally to the setblock. 

    One thing that is important in learning to use a tool is learning limitations, and also how to get around them. You have been finding ways to work within Minecraft to create the world you are dreaming of. So exciting! Keep it up. But Please do remember that learning what the limitations are is also a help. ;)

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  • Aleece Landis
    Bug Zapper Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    I suppose I was hoping it was just a quirk in the "naming" on the chalkboards as to why I could not find them when trying to enter them using commands.  And hoping that perhaps some one could tip me off.

    But alas it appears there are some bugs related to the chalkboards.  The reason I mentioned summon is because the chalkboards have the ability to be read via the screen reader like the NPCs do, so maybe there was something to that.  I think I also ran into the situation where with the Give command, I can only give myself a slate.  So the only way to get the other sizes is to go into the inventory and search for them in creative mode (sometimes I don't like doing this in creative mode since it is so easily to accidentally left click and destroy the board or npc I just spent I don't know how much time creating.)

    I'm not really sure where/how to report bugs but I expect some one else reported this years ago.

    I do understand that learning the limitations of tools is important in education.  However, trying to pass off a bug as an educational "feature" isn't really helpful to teachers who are already short on time available for lesson planning.  Trying to create rich complex lesson worlds to further the educational goals of a class is really time consuming and that after combing through the available lessons in the library and not finding what I need.

    I'm also posting much of this here even after finding the answers elsewhere because I think the answers may be helpful to other teachers who are struggling with similar issues to mine.

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  • Debbie Alexander
    Moderator Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    One thing that is important to clarify is that there is a difference between a bug and a limitation in the implementation of software.

    About the naming quirks: They can be a "thing!" =D As a tip for you, you can use the auto fill feature to help you determine what fields can be used in a command. For example, the way I found out that I could not use a board, poster, or slate in the fill tool, and found the correct name of the sign to be standing_sign is by typing in the correct command up to the point where the field needs to be entered. Sometimes I go through the entire alphabet hoping to find the field that I want! I actually did this hoping to find the poster for you. But I did not find anything but the standing sign.

    However, I don't want you to misunderstand. This is not a bug. This is not a mistake in the Minecraft program. This is simply the implementation as it is now in the text command window. There are many things that you can do when you use coding that you cannot do in the text command window. The opposite is also true sometimes. For example, if you put a board in the agent's inventory, and use Python Notebooks, this works:

    agent.place(1,"FORWARD")

    If you would like an additional feature, you can make a suggestion in the feature wish list section of the community hub. But that does not make some thing a bug. Certainly if you are having trouble with your computer working you can put in a help ticket. But getting to know what can be done in different parts of the software, whether you use the chat commands or whether it is better for you to learn to code, is a decision about learning about Minecraft that you will need to make. That said, I admit there is a learning curve to making Minecraft your goto tool for instruction. It is powerful and helpful, but from a teacher's perspective, it takes some time. Stick with it. You clearly have the gifts to get where you want to go. =]

    And a definite "YES!" to putting the tips and tricks and hints and solutions you are finding here for others! That is what community is all about - greatly appreciated!

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  • Aleece Landis
    Bug Zapper Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    Ok, so we can not place a chalkboard, poster or slate using a command.

    I have discovered that we CAN now clone them and they do show up and you can pre-populate the text on them and then clone it to whatever location it needs to be in the world.  (So if you needed to reproduce the same set of instructions in several different locations in a lesson or test world, you could create the board just once and then clone it to all the additional locations.)

    Apparently the bug from years ago where the chalkboards would not show up properly when cloned has been fixed.

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  • Debbie Alexander
    Moderator Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    I'm glad the cloning works for the boards. I am curious to know if the text travels with the cloning.

    Also, just as a note, cloning only travels so far, at least in my experience. I spent a lot of time cloning and recloning an underwater temple once, trying to move it a long ways, before I learned about other ways to recreate things! =]

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  • Aleece Landis
    Bug Zapper Beacon of Knowledge Super Star

    Yes the text did clone when I tested it out.

    Yes, I expect the cloning distance may actually have to do with ticking area, as in if it is far enough away that the chunks are unloaded, then it won't know what it is to be cloning.  So if you were to create a bank of things you want to clone, you need to make sure put them in a ticking area or create a ticking area for them.  Same with teleporting entities or teleporting to particular entities I think.  So Maybe if you were to create a temporary ticking area around the temple, then maybe you would have been able to clone the temple in one go.  I'm not absolutely certain about this but I think it is probably a good guess.

    Please do share, what are the other ways to recreate things?  I'm sure Many people here are interested in any/every way possible to recreate things!

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