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Dedicated Server for Minecraft:EE

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  • Aleece Landis
    Expert (Gold)

    Joe Scanlon    I've been having my students join that way.  However, I wonder if students actually are able to stay connected or reconnect when it shows that the join code quit working.  I've always thought that failure had more to do with the hosting client's connection to whatever service microsoft has on the web for those join codes, and if that has timed out I usually need to restart the game client anyway for things to keep working smoothly.  BUT that may well have more to do with my old computers.  I suppose if you have a powerful, CLEAN DEDICATED machine that doesn't do anything else, there probably isn't anything else going on that will cause these things to hang.

    Good to hear you have a functional solution.

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  • Joe Scanlon

    Aleece Landis I do have clean didectated windows 10 desktops for just minecraft hosting. I have tested your theory about the codes not loading and have noticed you can connect with IP no matter what. Codes or no Codes it works everytime. 

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  • William Pearson

    I tried the method mentioned above on hosting a world locally with a host in the nether. 23 students logged in, no lag. It worked well on the LAN, but remote students could not login. I don't know if I can get around our firewall. Would port forwarding be something to consider?

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  • Joe Scanlon

    William Pearson That's my next project is to port forward my desktops to gain access outsidethe network. I know it's possible with some information i've seen on other threards. 

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  • William Pearson

    Great. Let me know how it works out please.

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  • Aleece Landis
    Expert (Gold)

    Joe Scanlon Awesome, good to know!

    I have managed the port forwarding for my situation, of course I'm doing this all from home.  My biggest challenge is my ISP doesn't allow me to separate out the incoming port from the forwarded port so I actually had to purchase a second router to set up here and do the port forwarding twice.  Once to forward all the ports to the new router and then use the new router to break out which computer would get the different ports (since minecraft education edition is always going to look for it just on 19132.  Ugh, yet another reason I would have loved to have access to some server software.)

    If you guys are in school computer labs, I'm sure you will have to work with who ever manages the school networks to handle the port forwarding.

     

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  • Joe Scanlon

    Aleece Landis Luckly I am the IT department in my situation.. This is made the process more streamline when I control everything from accounts, hardware, software, and networking. 

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  • Jonothan Porterhouse

    If Minecraft Education Edition is Truly Bedrock based then couldn't the code in the normal Bedrock Edition Software be Edited to work for Minecraft Education Edition?

     

    Minecraft Bedrock Server Software: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock 

     

    Kyle M

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  • Ayman Jadallah

    Sadly no Jonothan Porterhouse it seems that there are a few key differences between the 2 that don't work together, but I believe that they wouldn't have to do that much to make it work, although I feel like if they were to do this they would do it in an easier or more kid-friendly design.

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  • Ayman Jadallah

    I just noticed this post moved up to the top of the feature wishlist community. Does this mean anything, or is it just nothing?

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  • Jonothan Porterhouse

    It does seem interesting, it may perhaps mean that they are putting A bit more thought into the Idea.

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  • anonymous user

    I've been following this for way to long. Why can't students and teachers just have a 1 gig partition in onedrive reserved for minecraft hosting? And the whole process could be made SO simple w/ power apps. An application template that lets you see the join code/IP address of a world and have a insta-link to join it. Don't wanna waste space? Make a separate 1 gig area!

    This could make things so much more simple. 

    I even made a concept myself:

     

    If I can do it, A giant company can. Come on, Microsoft!

    They can also start with something that isn't kid friendly, then make the update later on.

     

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  • Jodie Heap

    Hello,

    I work at a university and want to place my world into a server for all of the students to access it. Is this not possible?

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  • Andrew Forgrave

    Good morning Jodie Heap!

    As you can see, this thread is three years old, with nary an official comment in response.

    Although the original #MinecraftEDU was a modded version of the Java Minecraft and could be easily hosted for multiplayer access by participants from around the world, with the Microsoft acquisition of Minecraft in 2014, that option was discontinued, and requests for server support have come from educators ever since. 

    The new #MinecraftEducationEdition it is based on the Bedrock platform, which has been playing catch-up with Java Minecraft for years. It does not have a well-supported server model, and as a result, any kind of server-based implementation of #M:EE, while continually asked for by educators, is non-existent. Microsoft did briefly have Azure-based pilot three years ago, but nothing has been heard about that since it ended. This thread essentially arose in response to the lack of follow-through on that original pilot.

    Additionally, Microsoft maintains that their tenant-based security model is necessary for schools, and as a result, multiplayer access for M:EE is only available to students who are on the same domain — i.e. licensed within a given school district. Not only does this model limit any kind of wider collaborative multiplayer efforts across school districts, provinces/states, or countries, but it also promotes an old file-based model of downloading of world instances that are then accessed individually by students. One of the greatest strengths of Minecraft is the shared multiplayer model, and having kids spend time working independently within their own world files (and then moving on to the next file-based assignment) really dismisses a wonderful opportunity for shared and extended learning.

    Philosophically, a lot of M:EE development in recent years tends to result in Minecraft worlds that have a very focussed “worksheet“ experience, rather than seeing a shared multiplayer world as an open canvas within which students and educators can create and explore from first principles.  This stems from the model of commoditizing Minecraft content that has existed since the Microsoft purchase, first visible in the Minecraft for Windows 10 product that implemented the for-pay DLC model, encouraging kids to buy skins rather than designing and implementing their own as was (and remains) the model with the Java platform. So many kids these days are exposed to pre-developed Minecraft worlds and Minecraft content that the notion of creating their own tends not to be their first exposure to the game. As a result, this is also the model that a lot of kids experience with the M:EE implementation — unfortunately placing a very controlled front end on the experience that educators working to implement Minecraft subsequently experience as their delivery model. 

    Depending upon the kind of experience you wish for your learners, I would encourage you to continue to balance your use of M:EE against the opportunities offered by the Java platform. A simple whitelist on a Java-based Minecraft server allows you to both restrict access to your server to your students, and open access to anyone within the world (and by that I mean planet Earth) to whom you wish to collaborate.  

    Feel free to reach out if you would like to discuss further the options available with the Java-Minecraft.

    Best regards,

    Andy 

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  • anonymous user

    Wait, Would It be possible to do an always-on server with the new windows-365? ( A cloud computer made by Microsoft)

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  • Jodie Heap

    Andrew Forgrave

    Thank you for you reply it has illuminated some problems I have come across whilst looking into M:EE. I would love to chat more about the technical requirements and alternative options that may be available. Would it be possible to arrange a chat with yourself?

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  • Pucheng Mao

    I try to host a MCEE in my pc, and then open the port on the router to access it remotely.
    However, this is very unstable.

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  • Jianhong Ni

     Pucheng Mao, How did you do that? I am trying to learn to host this like this but I just can't find a way

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  • anonymous user

    Not so dear Microsoft:

    It's been 3 years. Please add dedicated servers. It would help my class so much. Thank you.

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  • Jacob Skousen

    YES! WE NEED ALWAYS ON SERVERS!

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  • Aleece Landis
    Expert (Gold)

    It would be so NICE if they could allow one Dedicated server instance per faculty account!

    We know it is possible to do, only issues being how much the added MCEE security measures may destabilize the process.

     

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